I often get asked about how I learnt investing at such a young age. I mentioned a brief overview of how I got into investing and learned the tactics. Here’s the story. The Idea. I was 14 years old kid eager to make money. My mom gave me an idea of investing in stocks. It seemed to be practical but I knew nothing about it. Later I asked my mom and dad. They knew very little. I called my aunt who trades every day for the last decade. She told me stuff but it didn’t help either. The Hustle. I started watching YouTube videos and read articles of investopedia. I understood nothing. It seemed like rocket science. I then bought a book called the intelligent investor. This book was for pros. I couldn’t read past a couple of pages. A month passed I was still on square one. I heard stuff like sensex, P/E, index, ROIC but I had no idea what they meant. Next, I watched YouTube videos on particular terms. I watched a video on what sensex means. What was a stock. How it works. Watching animated videos were quite helpful. I knew something. A few weeks passed I opened a virtual account on Stock trainer and traded a little. I watched CNBC everyday after I came home from school. Soon I knew the basic ticker symbols. And that’s how I learnt investing, at least the basics. The First Experience. In August I had the basic knowledge about stocks through YouTube. But I had no idea how to open a demat account and all. My mom opened it under her name through Icici Bank. Finally, on 6th September I bought my first stock. Coal India x1. I bought and sold random stocks. I mostly made losses. Over time I learned what fundamental analysis was. I watched animated videos on it. I soon selected stocks on the basis of P/E ratio, profit and sales growth. It didn’t work. I lost big on TATA Motors. Then finally I read my first book on stocks. It was called Rule #1. I had to read it 2-3 times to understand. It took me a month to read it. In August 2018, about a year later I saw a video on technical analysis. I never tried to understand it. I watched it. It was about 1.5hrs long. I was amazed to see how one can predict stock direction based on charts. Over the course of a few months watched over a 100 videos on YouTube about tech analysis since then. I loved the concept of margin. I came home early after my exam and bought my first stock on leverage. The Downfall. It was Infibeam Avenue. I shorted it. I made more money in half an hour than I had made in the entire year. I was soon addicted. Everyday after writing my exam paper I traded instead of studying for the next paper. Soon my exams were over. I had no time. I had to learn how to swing trade. I spent time analysing charts to figure out my next swing position. Again I lost a ton of money. I knew I had to scale back. So I set aside a small capital for trading. April 2019, I opened an account on Zerodha as the Icici brokerage was too much. Over the course I read books like- the intelligent Investor, Stock to riches, how to make money in stocks, how I made over 2 million dollars in the stock market and many more. So videos and books helped me learn more about stock market more than anything. The simplest way to start is just fucking start. If you’ve no idea what to do, just start. Search. Read. That’s how I learnt investing. The Sharing. In March of 2019 I decided to write a short blog on investing on a website called Quora. I was surprised to see the organic reach of my blog. Within hours I got over a thousand views. This encouraged me to write more. Over the course of a year, I ended up writing 450 short blogs on investing on Quora and a couple of books. In July of 2019 I decided to write a book on my experiences. I brainstormed the ideas and after 72 hours of writing and editing, my first draft was ready. I had no idea on how to publish it. After a few more hours of research and designing the cover I finally published it. After a few months I wasn’t satisfied with my book. It was only written for beginners. I decided to write something detailed for people who have decent amount of experience in investing. So, 15 days and 400 pages later I finished writing it. It did pretty good. I got over 5000 downloads. It's free (not trying to promote). The Pandemic. The pandemic was a great opportunity to learn more. I'd been watching hundreds of YouTube videos (I got 1k+ offline vids lol). And I learned more about deeper concepts. Like I'm currently learning about option chain and other forms of data analysis. The Bottom Line. At first I made a ton of silly mistakes. I lost money. But I kept learning and recently I started making profits consistently. It's not a rags to riches story, but it's something most people will go through. I'm no guru or expert, I'm just a guy trying to document his journey. "The more I learn, the most I realise how much I don't know". - Socrates (or some other old guy). -Vikrant C. If you read all that, hats off to you. It was extremely long (and probably not that interesting).
Zerodha vs Upstox comparison from the perspective of a daytrader.
I already posted this on indiainvestments but I'm going to post it here too because I'm not sure if my post is going to get approved by the mods there. Every once in a while a discussion pops up on this sub about which is better, zerodha or upstox, and many of the replies are usually from investors or swing traders. As a daytrader who's used them both for almost an year, I just want to share my thoughts on this because it might be useful for someone looking this up in the future. In my personal opinion, zerodha is, by far, the better choice. Not because zerodha is amazing, but because upstox is terrible. Here's why:
Non-existent communication with its clients. Need to get some piece of information? Good luck with that. You can try calling the customer care and most of the time your call will go unanswered. Even if they do pick it up, their agents are very incompetent. They know only about the account-opening process and if you ask them anything else, they're clueless. They'll just give some scripted response and will be of no help. You can try asking on their live-chat. They'll literally make you wait for 20-40 minutes (not exaggerating) and then give you some copy-pasted reply which usually does not answer your question anyway even after all that waiting.
Well if you're desperate enough you can try asking on their forum but the last time any developer or employee even bothered to respond was years ago. Now it's turned into a wasteland full of people posting random crap. Seriously, just visit that link once if you want to have a nice chuckle.
Now coming to their web and app platforms. Their app is decent, no major issue there. Their web platform used to feel very sluggish compared to zerodha's which feels way more smooth & snappy and sometimes it would just completely freeze up and force you to close your browser from the task manager. I have a quite powerful gaming PC with 16gb ram and this was happening even when I had no programs open other than just the browser with only one tab.
I mainly trade commodities and the commodity market is open until midnight. One day I noticed at around 5 in the evening that the charts just completely stopped moving, both on the app and web. I mean they just froze and stopped updating tick by tick. I complained to their customer care both on the phone and on twitter and I thought it was going to get fixed soon because surely they're going to take it seriously when something that big & important is broken, right? Well they didn't. I thought it would at least be fixed before the market opened the next day. Well it still wasn't. I think the devs were not even aware of the issue and the customer care just forgot about it as soon as they hung up the phone and didn't even bother to report it to anybody. I finally got fed up and messaged their co-founder about it on LinkedIn and it got fixed within one hour. May be he didn't even see my message and it was just a coincidence or may be it wasn't.
They recently released a new version of their website which seems to be better than the old one. I used it a little and already noticed a major flaw which was making it impossible to update my orders. Honestly, it's an amateurish mistake involving form validation which makes me question the competency of their developers and if then even bothered to properly test the platform before releasing it. I reported the issue but I highly doubt they even saw my report yet.
All of these are just front-end issues. Now coming to their back-end, one day it just stopped working for almost THREE HOURS straight. Nobody was able to login, both on the app and web of course, and those who were already logged in were not able to place orders, see their positions or do anything at all. I thought may be it was just me but I went on twitter and there was a tsunami of users complaining. Well after such a big fuck-up surely they're going to say something about it right? May be apologize or release a statement about what went wrong or something? Nope, they just remained completely silent like it never even happened. Not even a single post or reply on twitter even to this day. Also this is not a one-time issue. Their back-end stops working quite frequently but it's usually for a few minutes only and not for three hours which is still bad if you're a daytrader. Zerodha has such fuck-ups too sometimes but they usually at least address it instead of pretending like it didn't even happen.
Next, they just do whatever the fuck they want without even informing the clients its going to severely affect. I was using their API (which I was paying a monthly subscription fee for btw) for many months and one day it just stopped working. Then I found out that they had just suddenly decided to STOP their api services INDEFINITELY for almost all of their users with ZERO prior notice. Obviously this is a huge problem especially for those who do algo trading but I guess upstox thought it wasn't such a big deal.
I mainly trade crude oil and one day during the whole corona virus fiasco I wasn't able to place any orders as it was saying I didn't have sufficient money in my account to place an order. I was very confused because I was able to trade without any problem on the previous day and now it's saying insufficient funds even though not much has changed since yesterday? I asked their customer care (it took me almost an hour to get a response from them btw) and they were clueless. They were just sending me a copy-pasted response as usual. I kept digging and found out after a lot of searching that they had decided to suddenly double the margin requirements overnight and even their customer care wasn't aware of it.
Are you seeing a pattern here? Lack of communication. They won't inform you about anything and won't respond to you even if you try to reach out to them. This was the most frustrating part of my experience with them.
This post ended up becoming quite longer than I expected but hopefully it will warn new users to stay away upstox unless they get their shit together but I highly doubt it's ever going to happen. Zerodha has it's flaws too but it's quite decent in my opinion and definitely the best discount broker in India. At least their customer care isn't stupid and can answer some technical questions instead of knowing literally nothing except the account-opening process.
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